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		<title>Comment on Farmers in it up to their ears by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://auroracitizen.ca/2012/05/13/farmers-in-it-up-to-their-ears/#comment-12330</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 00:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Several members did not sign the code and several signed it without being aware of what they were hurried to sign.
The individual who may have said something to initiate the conductive clauses has been identified.
They were the talk of the market today.Do they have grounds to take this to the Human Rights Commission?
Any legal eagles care to comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several members did not sign the code and several signed it without being aware of what they were hurried to sign.<br />
The individual who may have said something to initiate the conductive clauses has been identified.<br />
They were the talk of the market today.Do they have grounds to take this to the Human Rights Commission?<br />
Any legal eagles care to comment.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Farmers in it up to their ears by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://auroracitizen.ca/2012/05/13/farmers-in-it-up-to-their-ears/#comment-12294</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 01:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alison teaches ethics at York. She can keep a confidence. If she says the code is legally wrong, it is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alison teaches ethics at York. She can keep a confidence. If she says the code is legally wrong, it is.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Farmers in it up to their ears by same old, Same old</title>
		<link>http://auroracitizen.ca/2012/05/13/farmers-in-it-up-to-their-ears/#comment-12293</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[same old, Same old]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 01:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That Jam Lady aimed her weapon at one vendor. She did not even consider the customers or the possibility that they might take umbrage and simply walk away from her domain. The thing should be used with the weekend fireworks or there will  be some unanticipated ones in Aurora.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Jam Lady aimed her weapon at one vendor. She did not even consider the customers or the possibility that they might take umbrage and simply walk away from her domain. The thing should be used with the weekend fireworks or there will  be some unanticipated ones in Aurora.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Farmers in it up to their ears by Tim the Enchanter</title>
		<link>http://auroracitizen.ca/2012/05/13/farmers-in-it-up-to-their-ears/#comment-12292</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim the Enchanter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 22:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know it&#039;s frustrating but it happens elsewhere too.  
Aurora&#039;s particular problem is that the Town - in particular Town council both past and present have failed to live up their responsibilities.
This has led to an unacceptable level of ambiguity when it comes to management and control of programs like the Farmers Market. 
In some cases I believe the &quot;door&quot; was intentionally left open so &quot;friends&quot; of council could do grab their little piece of &quot;turf&quot; and a catchy title to go with it. 
Other cases I believe result from an honest intent for the process to be more &quot;inclusionary&quot; and not cause &quot;offense&quot;
No matter.
The result has been &quot;you are responsible but I&#039;m in charge&quot; or &quot;You pay but we have control&quot; 
Farmer&#039;s Market and the Aurora People&#039;s Directorate for State Sanctioned Culture are two glaring examples.
This is why we now have yet another &quot;Made in Aurora&quot;  SillyStorm because even though the Town issues the permits somehow a hitherto unknown person who apparently makes &quot;jam&quot; says she has signing authority.
WTF?
And they&#039;ve come up with some Kafkaesque code of &quot;control&quot; so if you bad-mouth the Royal Family you go to prison - just like in Thailand.
Are you SERIOUS?


It&#039;s the Town&#039;s problem. 
The Town must fix it by deciding if they&#039;re running this market or not. 
 
And Wellington Street STILL hasn&#039;t been paved 
 
BTW - for those who care - here are the rules 

“Farmers&#039; Market” is a seasonal, multi-vendor, community-driven (not private) organization selling agricultural, food, art and craft products including home-grown produce, home-made crafts and value-added products where the MAJORITY OF vendors are primary producers (including preserves, baked goods, meat, fish, dairy products, etc.) Each member Farmers&#039; Market has a vote at a meeting of the General Membership.

&quot;Public Market&quot; is usually a municipally owned/operated (not private) year-round operation consisting of unique, specialty food and crafts merchants who sell some products they produce or grow themselves but who often sell items they buy from local producers or wholesalers. Public Markets usually include local producers during the growing season. Each member Public Market has a vote at a meeting of the General Membership.

&quot;Neighbourhood Farmers&#039;/Community Partnership Market&quot; is a community driven (not private) multi-vendor seasonal or year-round market featuring primary producers and other vendors suited to the interests/needs of a particular neighbourhood or community (e.g. local prepared food makers, fair-trade and organic product vendors). Vendors may sell items they have not produced to enhance selection and keep the market viable year-round, thereby, increasing customer loyalty and sales of local storage crops, meats etc., however, farmers&#039;, producers&#039; and growers&#039; own products take priority. Each Neighbourhood Farmers&#039;/Community Partnership Market has a vote at a meeting of the General Membership.

“Associate” is an individual or an organization that supports the Mission Statement and the goals of the organization but does not fit the description of a Farmers&#039; or Public Market. Associate Members do not have a vote at a meeting of the General Membership and an Associate member cannot be a voting member of the Board of Directors]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s frustrating but it happens elsewhere too.<br />
Aurora&#8217;s particular problem is that the Town &#8211; in particular Town council both past and present have failed to live up their responsibilities.<br />
This has led to an unacceptable level of ambiguity when it comes to management and control of programs like the Farmers Market.<br />
In some cases I believe the &#8220;door&#8221; was intentionally left open so &#8220;friends&#8221; of council could do grab their little piece of &#8220;turf&#8221; and a catchy title to go with it.<br />
Other cases I believe result from an honest intent for the process to be more &#8220;inclusionary&#8221; and not cause &#8220;offense&#8221;<br />
No matter.<br />
The result has been &#8220;you are responsible but I&#8217;m in charge&#8221; or &#8220;You pay but we have control&#8221;<br />
Farmer&#8217;s Market and the Aurora People&#8217;s Directorate for State Sanctioned Culture are two glaring examples.<br />
This is why we now have yet another &#8220;Made in Aurora&#8221;  SillyStorm because even though the Town issues the permits somehow a hitherto unknown person who apparently makes &#8220;jam&#8221; says she has signing authority.<br />
WTF?<br />
And they&#8217;ve come up with some Kafkaesque code of &#8220;control&#8221; so if you bad-mouth the Royal Family you go to prison &#8211; just like in Thailand.<br />
Are you SERIOUS?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the Town&#8217;s problem.<br />
The Town must fix it by deciding if they&#8217;re running this market or not. </p>
<p>And Wellington Street STILL hasn&#8217;t been paved </p>
<p>BTW &#8211; for those who care &#8211; here are the rules </p>
<p>“Farmers&#8217; Market” is a seasonal, multi-vendor, community-driven (not private) organization selling agricultural, food, art and craft products including home-grown produce, home-made crafts and value-added products where the MAJORITY OF vendors are primary producers (including preserves, baked goods, meat, fish, dairy products, etc.) Each member Farmers&#8217; Market has a vote at a meeting of the General Membership.</p>
<p>&#8220;Public Market&#8221; is usually a municipally owned/operated (not private) year-round operation consisting of unique, specialty food and crafts merchants who sell some products they produce or grow themselves but who often sell items they buy from local producers or wholesalers. Public Markets usually include local producers during the growing season. Each member Public Market has a vote at a meeting of the General Membership.</p>
<p>&#8220;Neighbourhood Farmers&#8217;/Community Partnership Market&#8221; is a community driven (not private) multi-vendor seasonal or year-round market featuring primary producers and other vendors suited to the interests/needs of a particular neighbourhood or community (e.g. local prepared food makers, fair-trade and organic product vendors). Vendors may sell items they have not produced to enhance selection and keep the market viable year-round, thereby, increasing customer loyalty and sales of local storage crops, meats etc., however, farmers&#8217;, producers&#8217; and growers&#8217; own products take priority. Each Neighbourhood Farmers&#8217;/Community Partnership Market has a vote at a meeting of the General Membership.</p>
<p>“Associate” is an individual or an organization that supports the Mission Statement and the goals of the organization but does not fit the description of a Farmers&#8217; or Public Market. Associate Members do not have a vote at a meeting of the General Membership and an Associate member cannot be a voting member of the Board of Directors</p>
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		<title>Comment on Farmers in it up to their ears by anonymous</title>
		<link>http://auroracitizen.ca/2012/05/13/farmers-in-it-up-to-their-ears/#comment-12289</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 21:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man, they really want that block of condos instead of a new town building for everyone&#039;s enjoyment. No money in it for them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, they really want that block of condos instead of a new town building for everyone&#8217;s enjoyment. No money in it for them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Farmers in it up to their ears by anonymous</title>
		<link>http://auroracitizen.ca/2012/05/13/farmers-in-it-up-to-their-ears/#comment-12288</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 20:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to Jan, only 2 vendors had not signed that code. She claimed that the &#039; executive &#039; would have to decide if non-compliance would lead to &#039; being turfed &#039;. Lovely woman!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Jan, only 2 vendors had not signed that code. She claimed that the &#8216; executive &#8216; would have to decide if non-compliance would lead to &#8216; being turfed &#8216;. Lovely woman!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Farmers in it up to their ears by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://auroracitizen.ca/2012/05/13/farmers-in-it-up-to-their-ears/#comment-12283</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 02:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you watch something long enough and listen hard enough a pattern appears.

The core of central Aurora, as Christopher Watts refers to the latest lobby group in today&#039;s post, by letters WSN-HEAT, which &quot;entity&quot; has addressed a letter dated April 30, 2012, to the Heritage Advisory Committee, starts to emerge from the ooze.

Think for a moment of all the controversial activities that grind through our lives, Cultural Centre, Farmers&#039; Market, Jazz Festival. These all share a small and relatively common geography.

The Town should retake the first through a discontinuation of funding and evict the other two to a fringe field off to the east.

55,000 people should have more impact than a dozen or two. It&#039;s time to stand up for &quot;our town.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you watch something long enough and listen hard enough a pattern appears.</p>
<p>The core of central Aurora, as Christopher Watts refers to the latest lobby group in today&#8217;s post, by letters WSN-HEAT, which &#8220;entity&#8221; has addressed a letter dated April 30, 2012, to the Heritage Advisory Committee, starts to emerge from the ooze.</p>
<p>Think for a moment of all the controversial activities that grind through our lives, Cultural Centre, Farmers&#8217; Market, Jazz Festival. These all share a small and relatively common geography.</p>
<p>The Town should retake the first through a discontinuation of funding and evict the other two to a fringe field off to the east.</p>
<p>55,000 people should have more impact than a dozen or two. It&#8217;s time to stand up for &#8220;our town.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Farmers in it up to their ears by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://auroracitizen.ca/2012/05/13/farmers-in-it-up-to-their-ears/#comment-12268</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 15:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would hope that the town would rise up once the first vendor is turfed, targeted or not ! This culture of fear has got to stop!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would hope that the town would rise up once the first vendor is turfed, targeted or not ! This culture of fear has got to stop!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Farmers in it up to their ears by Marie</title>
		<link>http://auroracitizen.ca/2012/05/13/farmers-in-it-up-to-their-ears/#comment-12248</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 01:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hear you, anon. I&#039;ve never lived in a place like this either. I&#039;ve never witnessed a place that indulges a small group of self-inflated, entitled buffoons the way this place does --- again and again. Do Aurorans think this is normal?? Because, trust me, it&#039;s not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you, anon. I&#8217;ve never lived in a place like this either. I&#8217;ve never witnessed a place that indulges a small group of self-inflated, entitled buffoons the way this place does &#8212; again and again. Do Aurorans think this is normal?? Because, trust me, it&#8217;s not.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Farmers in it up to their ears by anonymous</title>
		<link>http://auroracitizen.ca/2012/05/13/farmers-in-it-up-to-their-ears/#comment-12244</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 20:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some people just like meanness. &quot; No divine possession, no Satan, no unhappy childhood or chemical imbalance in the brain. For some people, there&#039;s no pleasure except meanness. &quot;
   I did not write that. Wish I had done so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people just like meanness. &#8221; No divine possession, no Satan, no unhappy childhood or chemical imbalance in the brain. For some people, there&#8217;s no pleasure except meanness. &#8221;<br />
   I did not write that. Wish I had done so.</p>
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